Tilley guardsman

Discussion in 'Pressure Lamp Discussion Forum' started by mr optimus, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. mr optimus

    mr optimus United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Hi lampies just got home from work about a hour ago and my Tilley 246 Guardsman i won on the bay last week has arrived i have all ways liked this model and now i own my first which i am proud of
    here are a few pics of it i will be adding it to the fettling forum once i have restored it

    1323707117-P1010009.gif

    Here is the lantern how it arrived as you can see i have quite a bit of work on it to bring it back to its former glory

    1323707190-P1010010.gif

    The above pic shows there has been a solder repair on top of the tank where the controll cock is mounted i will desolder this and do a neater and better job of it,
    i have stripped it down and completely dismanteled the uper burner assembly which had cobwebs dust etc in the air tubes and injector tube,the leather pump cup has completely dried up and the seals in the control cock are rock hard this lantern would never run with out a complete fettle/restoration job, i may have my work cut out but will totaly enjoy bringing this old classic back to its former glory
     

    Attached Files:

  2. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

    Offline
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    8,416
    Location:
    North-East England
    As you say, you've got a bit of work there to sort it out, Mr. O. Best of luck with the desoldering and resoldering, which is work I probably couldn't do despite being descended from a line of plumbers over 200 years long... :whistle:

    It's fitted with a pump from an earlier lamp - one of the cheese-base/pork-pie jobbies. This is good news because they're a better quality and less common than the later ones... :thumbup:
     
  3. mr optimus

    mr optimus United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Hi David thank you very much the resoldering work should not be a problem as i have had a good few stoves that i have had to resolder lately and Tim from CCS has sent me a optimus111 to restore and do a bit of solder work around the filler cap.
    I agree with you David the older models are a better quallity all round and the pork pie style lantern is something special a love the shape of the tank on that model.
    All so David i noticed how heavier the tank is on this Guardsman compared to the 246b stormlight
     
  4. CornishBurner86

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Thats a nice old guardsman you have there!

    Im sure once you have it all restored and fettled it will work and look a treat!

    As you say its heavier and also it feels there is alot more quality to it than a 264B,

    I have a 264B and its a sod, it always pulses bloomin thing lol,

    Will be looking forward to the restoration progress

    Adam
     
  5. mr optimus

    mr optimus United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Hi Adam thank you very much it is already stripped down i have soaked the pump tube assembly the contol cock and upper burner assembly in hot water and a very small amount of spirits of salts so it is a very week solution around the same strength as citric acid, and now all the dirt and tarnish is off, i noticed the spring in the control cock is missing maybe perished or it was lost some time in its life so i will have to find a replacement
     
  6. CornishBurner86

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Ive never used citric or spirit of salts yet, I should do really!

    Glad its coming along well already!

    Cheers
    Adam
     
  7. James

    James Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,152
    The valve in the control cock is not actually necessary and I normally remove it as the lamp can be shut off by dumping pressure. If you want to get it working a spring from a ballpoint pen works well.
     
  8. mr optimus

    mr optimus United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Hi James thanks for the advice i all ways turn of my lamps by releasing the pressure and then turning of the control cock,i will try a ball point spring as i like to add 10-15 strokes on the pump while the lamp is being prewarmed/primed the standard procedure,
     
  9. CornishBurner86

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Will a spring from a 246b control cock be ok?

    If so i got a spare one

    Adam
     
  10. mr optimus

    mr optimus United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Hi Adam i am sure a spring for a 246b would fit i have just been looking on base camp and they sell them for 30p i have just placed a order for a optimus111 jet and cleaning needle as i am restoring a 111 stove for a member on CCS if i had known i would haave added one to the list
     

Share This Page