Petromax 500HK, made in china -refurbish

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  1. Tonskulus Finland

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    Ok, my latest "not so interesting" project. I have never seen the original european made version but I immediately noticed this is not. Some details just looks like typical cheap chinese stuff, mostly the outer cosmetic parts. Actual burner parts seems to be decently made. IMG_20201007_114634.jpg

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    Disassembled
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    Now trying to figure out the manufacturing year.. and waiting for service pack and new mantles to arrive :)
     
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    As for a service pack: nuy some sheets of (viton) rubber and some punches and make seals yourself.
    leadseals can be used more then once and also punched from a piece of roof lead.
     
  3. Tonskulus Finland

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    WimVe: thanks for a tip!

    Some progress.. all brass parts cleaned and little polishing. Burner tube has bent, so it needs to get back to proper U-shape.

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    Wanted to make a custom painting :)
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    Outer parts together
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  4. Fireexit1 United Kingdom

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    Well @Tonskulus. It looks to be all there - I am sure it will make a fine lamp after your good works.
    Chris
     
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    Happy fettling!:thumbup:
     
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    Looks good. Why paint only the lower part of the hood or is that part of the customize ?
    Don't forget the thiny air holes in the rapid body part and the fuel pickup, seeve and tube of it.
     
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    Yes really don't forget those tiny holes :oops:
     
  8. Tonskulus Finland

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    Top part of the hood was so shiny so didnt want to paint that. So yes, this is just my customization :)

    Yes I noticed those tiny holes in preheater, will make sure there is nothing to block them.
    I actually tested this lantern before disassembly. Everything worked. I also opened the fuel valve and there was nice looking flame out of the ceramic burner head, well it was so powerful that I had to shut it down not to cause any damage without the mantle on it.

    They said.. "if it works, dont touch it!" ..well, now its too late anyway :D

    "if you try to make it work better, it usually gets worse!"
     
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    Thanks Alby!

    First test done, it works but could be better. My friend has another chinese clone and it is absolutely brighter using 300/400 thorium lantern. My petromax is a bit unstable, it flickers a bit and is not bright enough. When turning the control knob past the stop position, the mantle flashes very bright for 0.5seconds and then settles down again. So I need to disassemble the whole vaporizer again and change the pricker + jet.

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    Yttrium vs Thorium :) IMG_20201009_234407.jpg
     
  11. Tonskulus Finland

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    I figured out that there is quite a lot of "halo" around the mantle when running. Also, I took the top lid off and noticed some petrol mist coming out beetween the jet and mixing tube air space. So the jet is propably bad.. as far as I think the gas stream from the jet should go 100% to the mixing tube only.
     
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    Yes it should all hit the J tube. You can sometimes improve the jet stream by flatting off the top of the nipple on an oil stone. You can't take much off but doing this will often re-shape the hole and result in a tighter jet stream. ::Neil::
     
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    @Tonskulus are you sure the leak is not coming from the side of the jet ? - where it maybe is not tight enough or gas is leaking up the threads ? I have known them to loosen off on first use after a rebuild. Some use copper grease to help seal the thread. Other reasons I have found for 'flaring' can be the gas chamber not being tight or allowing leakage where it screws onto the J tube. I push a rod into the J Tube and slightly widen the threaded part out to make a better seal. Also make sure that the ceramic is tight on the gas chamber. A process of elimination !
     
  14. Tonskulus Finland

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    Yes, it was not leaking from the sides. Well check this out! Badly worn isnt it? IMG_20201011_171037.jpg Thankfully I just ordered new jet, pricker, seals etc.. :)
     
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    ha ha - yes - "comprehensivley knackered"
     
  16. Tonskulus Finland

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    Actually it looked like the pricker wire has pushed another hole right beside the original..
    who knows the material thickness around the hole?
     

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