Ehrich & Graetz 882

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  1. Henry Plews

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    Thanks to Jörg Wekenmann whose research has enabled positive identificataion of this lantern previously posted in the "Mystery Lamps" section of the Lamp Reference Gallery. Details of the restoration can be seen here.
    Unknown German Lantern

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  2. Martin K.

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    Just to follow-up: This lantern appears in the 106u flyer of 1929, is rated 200 HK and designed to burn petrol/gasoline, benzine and benzene.
    According to several documents, the same type designation 882 was used from 1936 on for a completely different table lamp as shown here.
     
  3. Jörg Wekenmann

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    Hi Henry,
    besides the 106u advertising sheet already mentioned by Martin, there is also a manual for this lamp in my archives.

    Greetings
    Jörg
    Petromax-637-o-1-29-ML-02.jpg
    Here we do have a part of the leaflet 106U:
    Petromax-Nr-142a-5-29-MI-A.jpg
     
  4. Martin K.

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    The manual posted here by Jörg is document 637o, also from 1929. Sorry, forgot to mention that in my above post.
     
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    A nice lantern. This must be among the earliest pressure lanterns by Ehrich & Graetz. A great combination of the basic Petromax 821, US and Swedish designs. Should be pretty rare too.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Congratulations to your find and restore.
    Many thanks to Jörg and Martin for the documents.
     
  7. Jörg Wekenmann

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    Hi MYN,

    before the Petromax No. 882 appeared on the market in 1929, the Graetz factory already produced the following types:
    No. 833 - 1921
    No. 832 - 1922
    No. 829 - 1924
    No. 823 - 1925
    No. 821 - 1926
    No. 819, 820, 822, 824, 825, 826 - 1927

    In 1923 a two flame Petromax table lamp (200 HK) was manufactured with American system. There exist no number for this lantern in my files.

    Kind regards
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    Thank you Jörg for the infomative list.
    Those are indeed among the earliest pressure lamps and lanterns.
    The hanging/donut lamps were earlier. Most portable pressure lanterns came a bit later, mid to late 1920s.
    The 1920s portable types are very rare in my location. I've not seen them here. Those from the 1930s can sometimes be found here but still uncommon.
    Could it be too early on the No. 829 - 1924? Can't be earlier than the 826 or 828, I think.
    Or, was there another lamp having the same number as the 500hk Petromax 829 rapid? I know the No. 833 was designated to both an early hanging lamp and a much later, portable lantern(Argentina, 1950s?)
     
  9. Jörg Wekenmann

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    Hi MYN,
    The lanterns listed above are all portable lantern, whether it is with a carrying handle or so-called table lamps that you can also carry.
    The list does not include donut lamps or wall lamps.
    It is based on my Graetz archive which goes from 1882 to 1979.
    Hanging lamps in the donut style can be traced from 1910, pressure lamps for carrying as we know them today from 1922. If my archive still increases, then the year of publication of one or the other lamp may still change.

    Here we have the two from the years 1922 and 1923:
    Ehrich-Graetz-1922-01.jpg
    The No. 829 from 1924:
    Petromax-633-g-4-24-ML-02.jpg

    Kind regards

    Jörg
     
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    Thank you Jörg
    I mistakenly recalled the 833 as a hanging lamp. It is actually a table lamp like shown in the leaflet.
    The No. 829 is indeed a different lantern like I suspected.
    However, I wasn't aware there's actually an early 200hk lantern with the same model number as the 500hk Petromax(rapid).
    That is certainly very informative. E & H was very active with many models of lamps and lanterns during those early years.
     
  11. Jörg Wekenmann

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    Hi Myn,

    the No. 829 from 1924 and the No. 829 from 1936 are indeed different lanterns:
    Petromax-Rapid-No-165-a-1936-03k.jpg
    Did you mean this one?

    Kind regards

    Jörg
     
  12. Conny C

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    You should not forget the earliest Petromax lamps from the 1913 catalogue (Bredenstein) 882 and 883.
    The 882 table lamp you can see as my avatar!

    /Conny
     
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  13. Jörg Wekenmann

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    Hello Conny,

    I have to agree with you without contradiction!
    The two have a standing glow and not a hanging so we are used to the small Petromax lanterns from 1921, but they are pressure lamps.
    However, I believe that they disappeared from the market very quickly, which may be attributed to the First World War.
    However, both lamp number celebrated a rebirth in the year
    1929 as handy Petromax lanterns.

    Greetings
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    Hi Jörg. That's right. The 1936 and later No. 829s are the ones we mostly see.
    The 1924 200hk No. 829 is something I haven't come across. In the manual sheet you posted, it appears to have a bent vaporizer? It must quite uncommon too.
     

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