What do I call this? (Coleman bracket lamp)

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  1. Tony Press

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  2. Levi Tomey United States

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    Well, I’d call it a Coleman wall lamp or whatever you call those Tilley wall lamps.
     
  3. coleman54

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    Hi Tony,
    Coleman listed this in the mid 1920’s export table as a :
    “BL 327 Hanging Bracket Lantern”

    Advertising also shows it as a
    “Hanging Bracket Lantern”

    Hiram’s entries in the shipping records list it as “BLQ”

    Herb Ebendorf referred to it as :
    “B327 Hanging Bracket Lamp”

    In 1930’s there was also another bracket style export model based on the model no. 122 torch lite lamp, and model no. 223 lantern designated as :
    “124 and 124 B Bracket Lamp”
     
  4. Henry Plews

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    It looks like an early outdoor bracket lamp with a much later wide hat, so a Coleman B327/228
     
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    Tony,
    I have seen very few original versions, I have one put together for my own enjoyment. A few questions:
    Is the fount dated ?
    If possible does the vent have any indentions ?
    What is the letter stamp on fiber wheel ?
    Does mixing chamber have a set screw for air tube?
    Could we see the arm/burner connection ?
    Do the frame uprights show a trace of bail attachments in the past ?
     
  6. Tony Press

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    Thanks folks! I will get into the shed later today and have a god look over it. If I recall correctly it is dated “5 11”. I will look at all the other mentioned features.

    The lamp was found in Australia as is.

    Cheers

    Tony

    Edit: The control wheel has “G” on it.

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  7. JEFF JOHNSON

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    I would call it a wall lantern rather than a wall lamp.
     
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    UPDATE:

    The tank is dated 9 11 not 5 11.


    “G” on wheel.
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    US and British Patent.
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    Screw.
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    Green wide (‘big hat’) vent/white underneath.
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    Bail fittings.
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    Cheers

    Tony

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  9. coleman54

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    Tony, the components are consistent with 1929 with exception of the fiber valve wheel that would normally indicate early mid 1928, however that is a special valve only used on the bracket lanterns not (BQ) or other lanterns or lamps of the era, so it is original and has been bled over for this lamp.
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    Notice the stem body is on upper end of the valve, Lantern valves have the stem on the bottom end. To make a lantern valve work on these it takes a bushing fitting to mate the two male fittings together after removal of the fuel pickup tube.
    I am surprised to see the bail attachments still there, they are basically crimped in place and could have been removed.

    Larry

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  10. george

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    Is that wide brimmed top original? Somehow it looks out of place. I'm use to the narrow ones without a green enamel coat, I guess...
     
  11. Tony Press

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    @george

    I don’t know about the ‘big hat’. I’m
    hoping someone here will hazard a guess.

    @coleman54

    Thank you for that information. I’m starting to really like this bracket lantern.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Tony, this is the one I mentioned earlier made up for my own enjoyment from 1923 components. C903D345-28C1-4188-AB5D-06E30FD7D405.jpeg Larry

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    Now that's what I'm talking about! That looks perfect!
     
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    Nice one, Larry! And here I thought I was the only one who had cobbled one up in envy of the real deal. LOL!
    Mine started out as an electrified eBay purchase. A cordectomy, and silver soldered bolt-in-the-hole fixed the problem. The bail attachments, brass adaptor, and cutout in the burner frame base clearly identify it as a poseur BL327.
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    Mike.
     
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    Forgot to mention I went for the full meal deal on the lamp above and it has the restricted burner tube and preheat cup to make it a kero burner--a BLK327 poseur!

    Mike.
     
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    That’s a beauty Mike, but that is really cheating adding the K burner !

    Larry

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    I’ve broken this wall lantern down and I will make sure I’ve got good photos of the lamp as it comes apart and back together.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Great find Tony ! I have no doubt it’s on the money ! We definitely are the lucky country !
     
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    Btw I’d call it a unicorn !
     
  20. Tony Press

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    I think I can declare victory:

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    Cheers

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    Congratulations Tony ! It is working well ! :)



    Larry
     
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    Looks good Tony :thumbup:
     
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    Very nice mate, congratulations.
     

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