What’s the difference regarding Germany marking between these three glass globes on the Schott Optimus 930 globes? One marked ”made in germany”, one ”made in west germany” and one only ”Optimus”. Then there is also the half and the full frosted globes too. Someone that knows the timeline for these Optimus 930 globes? Regards Matti
Unfortunately I can't help with the Schott logo timeline, but I'm sure someone on here can. As the model started in 1954, I would have expected it to already be marked with West Germany, but maybe not. The one with only the Optimus logo is possibly from another supplier. I have seen a few of these, but they are not as common as the Schott ones. What I do know is that the 2/3 frosted globes came with the brass 930s and the full frosted globes are for Optimus's gas lamp (can't remember the model number). As they are the sam size, you do find the full frosted on a 930 every now and then. I'm sure they didn't come from the factory that way.
Hi, Tom was in contact with some of the Schott people about trademarks some years ago. He put a paper of the different logos used by Schott there Logo von Hasag, Petromax, Radius, Optimus, Aladdin, Tilley und Co. Lampen / Lampe / Lamp / Petrol / Kerosene / Petroleum on his website. But as a large-scale manufacturer Schott primarily made glasswares, not logos. They certainly sold their goods off not regarding of which would bear the correct logo according to trade marks and customer demand. Some logos were used to mark the specific works were goods realls were produced. Some were to state the grade of quality. Then they added additional logos upon customer reguest like Optimus... Petromax... or whatever the customers wanted. They still do today and will certainly make any glass (globe) you like to the specifications liked. But you will need to buy (at least) one day's production of a kind wich will be several 10s of thousands pieces. Erik
Hi Matti, the first two globes are easy to explain. From 1950 until 1965 Schott Mainz used this logo: From 1966 on they used this one: The Schott factory in Jena was naturally not pleased that Schott in Mainz was using the words “Schott & Gen.”. Around 1965, it was agreed that Schott & Gen. would be used by Jena, and Schott in Mainz would only use the word “Schott”. Kind regards Jörg
Does anyone know when this change would have happened. Considering these glasses were used from 1954 on when there already was an East and West Germany.
Hello Nils, there is no clear yes or no answer to this question. Some companies started using “Made in W. Germany” or “Made in Western Germany” as early as 1951, while others took much longer. The glass by Matti marked “Schott Mainz and Made in W. Germany” is an indication of when Schott introduced this marking. Best regards, Jörg
Thank You all for Your accumulated knowledge in this matter. Always such joy to follow. I Also have totally unmarked ones from fogas.se, that came to me without markings on the packing material. Regards Matti
