This lamp is a sidecick from a auction, where I actually was bidding on another lamp. I thought this was a ordinary 827 Petromax. When postwoman Pat arrived I found out the whole lamp was made of iron but the tanklid and the J-tube. Even the jet and needle is iron. It came like this and unfortunatly the J-tube is broken and the nozzle too. The name-tag is missing and the silver-surface is not paint but electric galvanizing. In a way it looks origin and it is also inside the tank. The hood is black enamel in fair condition. Is this a Petromax 2827? It sure dont look like PiTu's stunning lamp from the gallery.
Hello Claus! I have seen many px's 2827 but nothing like yours. In my opinion it was refinished with galvanizing or painting, as you can see rusted areas under the silver coating. Rapid knob looks like partially painted? Best regards, Piotr
A steel tank and black hood would suggest 2827 for sure. Perhaps the paint has been removed and the parts plated at some stage? It is a 1940s lantern or at least made between 1941 and 1954 but the steel tank probably makes it a WW2 issue. ::Neil::
I think I didn't said it clear enough. It's a px 2827, but this is not an original condition. It should be painted black and green. Be careful with the rapid knob - as they often crack barely touched.
Thanks for baptizing this lamp to a 2827 while I didnt know what to call it in my own photogallery The black enamelhood confused me a bit. And the galvanizing did too while it is so comprehenzive galvanizingwork, looks very neat. There is no paint on the rapid and the blackish is just abrasion. The galvanizing must have been done early in the ownership while there is almost no areas but the bottom where material seems to be missing and a bit of the cage. I did disassemble the whole lot but did not clean with anything but dishwashing water. This lamp is also with a bottom-valve, attached to the tube for the stick and cleaningneedle, which all like the whole rapid-heater is made of entirely out of iron. The rapid-handle is in good health but thanks for the warning. To me it is very pallid to work with a lamp made of iron . Why did Petromax make a black enameled hood and not stick to the green? How is it possible to date this lamp - what do you guys use as reference? Shall I still paint it like PiTu's? or did the blackhood look different? Claus C
The black and green is because this was a military lantern and armies like dull colours even on lamps. Might seem a little strange to attempt to camouflage a light but that’s the military mind for you. ::Neil::
To my knowledge there exist mostly two different versions of the 2827. - One with a black enamel hood and "fresh green" fount (lets call it "civil") and the - other with olive/green enamel hood and olive fount, (lets call it "military"). Both of them have the black collar, "Rapid" lighter with the small spoon-style lever and a separate pressure gauge. There's another forum where both versions are shown together on one picture for comparison purposes. There exist "civil" versions of the 827 as well that have similarly painted fount made of brass and black iron collar. These have the D.R.P. pressure gauge within the filler cap. Besides a "military" 2827 I've got a "civil" painted 827 here, however this one has a green enamel hood... The 2827 from Claus seems somehow "stripped" to me, I've also never seen before a 2827 like that.
