Hasag unknown lamp

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  1. dino-croatia

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    1405199296-20140712_221405-001.jpg 1405199304-20140712_221426-001.jpg 1405199312-20140712_221857-001.jpg Dear all,

    I recently purchased this lamp on the local flea market.
    Unfortunately it has no model number, only written HASAG.
    I disassembled it and preparing for cleaning,I noticed that it has made a filter similar to the alcohol stove.
    If someone knows something about this lamp I would be grateful.
     

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  2. Claus C

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    The Graetzin gaslamp looks a bit like it :-k :

    http://www.culturalheritage.cc/md/search/nemo.vm?nr=4

    Claus C
     
  3. WimVe

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    Dino,
    Welcome to the forum.

    What you have is a alcohol gravity lamp.
    It is identical with the more known (?) Marla. Please take a look here: www.petromax.nl/Marla.html
     
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    Welcome aboard! :thumbup:
     
  5. dino-croatia

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    1405445164-20140713_150612.jpg Dear all,

    Thanks to all for the information that you gave me.
    One tube was curved, and when I tried to straighten this tube cracked,
    I have everything ready to make a new one but I can't find tool for threading yet.
     

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  6. Martin K.

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    Ouch, that's bad luck! But it can always happen (and usually causes much work to correct).

    Did you try M10x1, this thread is quite common to lamps. It can also be found today at electric lamps (at least here in Germany).

    BR, Martin
     
  7. Carlsson

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    Same here in Sweden.
    M10x1 is still a standard thread for many electrial lamps. Especially for the E27 socket when fixed on a single metal tube as in old lamps.

    And if we go a hundred years back, it was the thread used on fittings for the tubing of e.g. Lux and Aladdin paraffin lamps, despite the fact we weren't fully metric back then.

    I used to have a combination tool called "Nippelfix" to salvage threads when repairing (electrical) lamps at work, but I lost it some time ago.
    It's not a thing I often run into anymore, but perhaps time to order it again for more personal use ;)
    Any electrical wholesaler should carry it.
    (The larger thread is M13x1):
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  8. Conny C

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    Hi Dino,

    This lamp is the Hasag Lilliput Hängelampe from around 1930. As stated beore it´s an alcohol fed lamp. I have one and it´s a good and easy handled lamp and gives a fair amount of light. Sorry the tube broke; which part is it? Attached you find a parts list for the lamp.

    /Conny

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  9. dino-croatia

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    Tomorrow I will try to find threading tool at friend who is a turner. The part that is broken is 62N.
     
  10. longilily United Kingdom

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    If your turner friend hasnt got one, M8 x 1 die's are readily available for less than a tenner, and I'm sure your turner friend will have a diestock to suit :thumbup:

    Good luck
     
  11. Carlsson

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    I just checked my Radius 107 which is of the same family as all mentioned above.
    The thread there was M10x0.75.

    So what size are yours? You never told us, and since you got the gauge, I assume you already have had it measured?

    M10x0.75 on the same position as yours, but on a Radius. Not saying that yours is the same by this:
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  12. longilily United Kingdom

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    There as available and a similar price, so still a cheap solution for you Dino

    That 'Nipplefix' looks a handy tool Christer, never seen one of those before :thumbup:

    Cheers
     
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    Nippel-Fix. Not English spelling. [-( :lol:
    Yes they are handy for other things than the electrical lamps intended for.
    There's also a simpler, but even handier, version without the M13 part.
     
  14. dino-croatia

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    Unfortunately I did not arrived do anything, I am two days on a business trip.
    FI of the tube is 10mm, FI of the thread is 8.7mm
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  16. longilily United Kingdom

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    Looks like your turner friend will be doing you some screwcutting pretty soon :whistle:

    Or


    You could try a M9 fine (0.75 pitch) and close up the die a bit, there around a fiver over here for the cheaper carbon steel version :thumbup:

    Let us know how you get on ;)
     
  17. dino-croatia

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    I finally had some time to finish the tube, but unfortunately when I wanted to weld the tube
    I realized that I have no more oxygen for welding. Tomorrow I'm going to buy a bottle of oxygen and I'm hoping to finish that job.


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  18. longilily United Kingdom

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    Good stuff Dino, how did you do the threads in the end ?
     
  19. dino-croatia

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    finally finished! almost

    At the end of tubes I made thread, and on the opposite side I expanded the hole to insert a tube for 3 millimeter. What I later welded with silver.
    I have to try tomorrow with mantle, what is your recommendation I have a lot kind of coleman mantles.

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  20. Wim

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    Hi Dino, if you have a mantle for a 200 or 250CP lantern, I'd try that first. I've learned from this forum alcohol lamps are not as powerful as "real" pressure lamps so you'll need a fairly small one (the one used for Coleman twin mantle lamps might be a good start, you can always switch to a smaller one).

    Good luck!

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
  21. dino-croatia

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    Finally done,

    Thank you all for helping me.
    Video: http://youtu.be/Um0c3lK0j-8

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    Great to see it running...
     

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