Were globes stamped with the word davisil (and others) in the blue lozenge supplied to Tilley before the Pyrex globe and what would the year of the changeover be? Or were they used concurrently?
Hi Matty ! So many questions !! I reckon the names on the glass changed depending on the supplier of the glass ware for Tilley. Better deals were wanted to cut costs as the Tilley company must have ordered millions of the 182 glasses. The earlier 182 glasses before the war years were more of a tear drop shape so this would help to roughly age the 182 glass. Pyrex is a trade name and nothing to do with tilley but for legal reasons it has to appear. Or the word pyrex is to avoid cheap imitations that can't take the heat . Some one on here will tell you what I'm trying to get at ! The two stormlamps you got from Mark. I think one was marked in blue on glass. That glass on the storm lamps was its first quest appearance 171 I gave you the date the other week for your lamp ! mick
Oh ok, so the 171 globe with blue stamp first appeared when the x246 was born? So the globes originated in 1946.
Hi ! Me again ! on Tilley 182 glasses various names were seen. Davisil , Pheonix , Hysil , Durosil , GTCL ltd and E E C ! It was good advertising to etch in glass makers name but after moving to Ireland all standards were on the way out so I'll guess everthing was Pyrex by then 1958 The phoenix name appears on the glass for SDR mick As the word Pyrex appears on a lot of globes I 'll guess the Pyrex marking came last
Hi ! Matty ! I think you need to adjust your Australian to English translation slightly. The word globe referres to 182 when you talk about 171 best to say storm lamp glass no one over here talks about a storm lamp globe for X246 , X246A or X246B . Hope that helps your understanding of Tilley lamps !! mick
I do have a bad habit of using the word globe in a generic sense. So too my use of the word lamp when I'm actually talking about a lantern. It's got nothing to do with Australian to English translation but everything to do with me engaging my brain before I type.
FWIW, pyro is the Ancient Greek word for fire - hence e.g. words like pyromaniac, pyrexia and Pyrex for heat-resistant glass. Pyrex glassware for cooking was made by James A. Jobling (later taken over by Corning, I think) in Sunderland, a few miles from here. Whether they also made Pyrex globes for Tilley, I just don't know. The Sunderland factory closed down years ago and there's now a housing estate on the site....
Bloody hell David, anyone would think you were a teacher or something Thanks, an interesting and informative post.
Nothing wrong with that. A lantern is a lamp, so when speaking of lamps you cover all. It's not possible to do the opposite though, even if sometimes people do that too. I.e. writing lantern when they actually are talking about a table lamp.
I seem to recall I may have been in an earlier part of my life. But yes, all lanterns are lamps but not all lamps are lanterns. Anyway, I thought you Aussies called them all 'lights' - at least Albert White invariably did...
To get back to the original query - a friend has a tear shaped globe with blue lozenge and the words Durosil: Tilley Hendon: British Made, on it. Can anyone hazard a guess as to date of that one?
G'day Jean, I think Mick gave you a bit of information in relation to the dating though not if the blue stamping and Pyrex ran concurrently.
Hi Jean ! Yes the pre war globes may well have had a Tilley shield etched or sand blasted into the glass. Not so easy to find !! As did the outer glass shades also before the war with no collar to the glass shade but usually found with Tilley shield added. Also not so easy to find !! mick
I have 2 Mick - one cracked top to bottom but with a decades old (I imagine) glue job. The second has a huge chunk out of it and the repair I did with glass bonding stuff (pics in an earlier post). I've yet to find one with a clear shield and no damage.
