Hasag 34 help

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  1. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Hello everybody,

    I'm Nicola and I am a young collector from Italy. I've been reading this forum for some months already, but this is my first real post :)

    I have something like 40 lanterns actually and I will post some pictures in the gallery when I'll have some time to make nice photos.

    Today I'm looking for some help about an Hasag 34 that I recently saved from being lost (some photos attached, sorry for the bad quality but I took them just now with my old phone).

    It is in a very good shape, I'm not a polisher so I just cleaned it with some water and soap, not fettled yet by the way. It comes with original globe, so that's awesome.

    The label on the body reports just the number 34 (sorry again for the bad photo), so would be interesting to have a dating reference.

    As you can see it's missing the hood, inner hood and the handle. I'm wondering if any of you guys have a spare hood for this lantern, for the inner hood I could buy a new one for a px 150, but I'd like to stay original.

    I have some interesting stuff to trade eventually.

    Any help would be really appreciated :)

    Cheers,

    Nicola

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    Welcome and good luck on finding the parts you need.
    Your Hasag looks very nice.
     
  3. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Hi Jon,

    thanks a lot for the best whishes :) I really hope to find those parts!

    Cheers,

    Nicola
     
  4. Martin K.

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    Ciao Nicola,
    as a first step you can try to use avaliable spare parts from todays 150HK lanterns, e.g. from Hytta.de .
    The handle can be made by yourself from a piece of steel or stainless steel wire with the appropriate diameter.
    Good luck for the fettle of this neat little lantern!
    Regards, Martin

    PS. I fettled my own Petromax 900 and even Ditmars 523 / 581 with an inner chimney of todays production, as you can see from this post
     
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  5. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Ciao Martin,

    thanks for your answer!

    For the handle I agree, it's what I was thinking to do. For the inner hood I agree too, I was thinking already to buy one for one of my Solex 252 that is missing it.

    I know how hard is to find parts for these lanterns, but who knows, maybe one day I will find another hasag 34 with the fuel tank destroyed and take its hood for this one... at least I'd like to find the original top, to respect the style of the lantern.

    I love 100cp lanterns and lately I had luck finding them in very good and complete conditions!

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    This is part of my collection with the little babies and the most rare beasts I found, from left to right:

    Behind:

    Geniol 150cp, Rare Continental 4615 (found in Perugia), Fair 200, Rare Optimus 821 (found in Rome, saved from electrification)

    Front:

    Maximette 581
    Maximette 593
    Phoebus 611 with metal box
    Petromax Little Baby 900
    Original Docovus 100cp
    2 Solex 252

    Waiting to add the hasag 34 of the post.

    As I said before, soon or later I will add them to the gallery!

    Thanks for the help!

    Nicola
     

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    Nice collection that you have there! Parts of it would surely fit in my collection, too! ;)

    May I ask you to put some photos of your two-mantle Maximette here in the reference gallery? These seem to be exceptionally rare and I've never seen one in real life. Even it's hard to get pictures of them where one can see some details of the fiddly construction.

    BR, Martin
     
  7. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Hi Martin,

    of course, I'll take some pictures asap. That maximette has been my first small lantern, I found it in Torino. I knew it was rare, in fact I was looking for some other models with the two mantles but with no luck... it also appears to be practically brand new, maybe never used. It still is in as found condition, I did not touch it because I was scared to break something :)

    I'll keep you updated about the photos.

    Cheers,

    Nicola
     
  8. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Hi Martin,

    here it is, as promised: http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/9981
     
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    Welcome and lovely picture of the middle shelf
    Can we see the top shelf and the bottom shelf .
    As a young collector you are doing terrific .
    Nice Ditmar Maximette and best hunting wishes
     
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    Hi Michael,

    ahah thanks. The middle shelf is the best one obviously... I also have the shame shelf too :D

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    Just a panoramic view, I will add specific photos of the good ones soon:

    Very Top (left to right):

    2 Solex 300
    2 Petromax 829
    1 Petromax 828
    1 Petromax 829 Military version NOS
    3 Petromax 826 (the oldest is from 1935)

    Top (left to right):

    Early Providus 222
    Solex 200
    Petromax 827
    Optimus 1200 brass
    2 Petromax 821 with original reflector
    In the middle a 1931 with a glorious patina Baby Petromax 821 with an unmarked reflector that seems anyway of the same period.

    Middle shelf as seen in the previous post.

    Bottom shelf (left to right):

    2 bialaddin 300x
    Another 1933 Baby Petromax 821 (some stress cracks on bottom plate)
    Hasag 351L
    Coleman 242C from 1947
    Ditmar Maxim
    Swedius Astarte 200
    Tilley guardsman of the early '50, undated.
    In the empty spot the hasag 34 of the original post :)

    Then I have on another shelf:

    Petromax 835 hanging lamp
    Solex 300 very nice conditions
    Swedius Astarte 300 very nice (more rare than the 200)
    Petromax 828/300 military edition (green painted)
    Anchor 999 vintage

    For spares (on the super shame shelf):

    Solex 300 (missing inner hood)
    Swedius Astarte 200 (missing jtube and nozzle)
    Coleman 220C (Nothing missing but not in my heart)
    Providus Modello 60 (heater not a lamp, missing heat reflector)
    Petromax little baby 900 very nice tank (missing all the top btw)

    I think this is all :D
     

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    Fantastic you would need sunglasses if you polished that lot of beauties, so organised !.
    Thank you for the show excellent, I will go away in shame and start to tidy my shed up .
     
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    Hi Michael,

    thanks! Honestly I need new places where to put the lanterns... for some of those I am sorry that they stay hidden behind other ones... they deserve more space.

    As you can see I'm not a polish guy, I like the different patina of each lantern and when you look at them all together you can clearly see how nice are all the color differences between them :)

    Honestly, if I look at my brass optimus 1200 or to the brass geniol 150, would be a suicide to cancel all those years of patina in one hour of crazy polishing... I like to keep them in as found condition, I just remove dust and grease when present, nothing more.

    Martin,

    I think its a military version for what I've learned here. The black body, the ink stamped date on the bottom plate (October, 42 - eg logo) let me think it's a special edition for some military compartment... but I can be wrong of course. The red enameled hood comes with a steel disc on top of it, very different if compared to other red petromax hoods of other periods...

    The Hasag seems, as you say, polished steel or nickel plated, with light blue bottom hood and dark blue top hood. It was a bit rusty on the tank surface, in fact the HASAG sticker (blue and yellow) is not there anymore... to remove the rust the few pieces that still were there went away unfortunately. Behind the sticker I did not find any paint, but the bottom plate seems light grey painted, but that could be a previous owner decision. The tank, the body and the hood don't have any Hasag mark. The model "Hasag 351L" was present on the classic alluminum tag on the body plate, but the vinegar dissolved it during the rust removal... my fault and lack of experience :(

    I'll post some pictures asap.

    cheers,

    Nicola
     
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    Here the missing bits of my collection. The Solex 300, Petromax 828/300 military (1942), Astarte 300, Petromax 835.

    Martin these are some pics of the Hasag, the rust is coming back and it's hard to say if it was nickel plated... as you can see the bottom is painted. The strange fact is that on the tank I did not find any trace of paint, nothing... also below the rest of the sticker...
     

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    Some pressure pieces also with the oil lanterns:

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    =; Yes, surely that is your "Shelf of Shame" - not the other one you mentioned... =; ;) :lol:
     
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    Hello David,

    thanks! Yes, you're right, that's the real shell of shame :D

    Cheers,

    Nicola
     
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    Looks great, all in the living room ? What is the thingy at the backside of the black lantern right/front ?
     
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    Hi Wim,

    yes, all in the living room at the moment... and not only lamps :) I'm quite sourrounded by many objects.

    I think that you mean the Providus Modello 60, it's an heater... there is a complete example in the gallery if I remember well.

    Cheers,

    Nicola
     
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    Here it is, I found it:

    http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/7961

    providus modello 60, mine unfortunately is not complete...
     

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