Ignition points...

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  1. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

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    Anyone remember ignition points in their car's distributor? Anyone remember two-piece ignition points in their car's distributor? Does anyone remember the little brown insulating/spacer washer that went between the two pieces?

    [-o< More to the point; does anyone have one of those little brown washers lurking about in their 'odds and ends' box? I had one once which I put in a safe place so I didn't lose it. Bo&&ocks! :doh:

    Nigel Garlick (KL80), where are you when I need you... :lol:
     
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    I remember them well and I'm sure I have a set, brand new in their box. Unfortunately, like you, I put them in a safe place and can't for the life of me, remember where that safe place is.

    Desperately busy at the moment but will have a look when /if I have time but don't hold your breath.

    Henry.
     
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    Points, distributors, what are you talking about? :-k :lol: :lol: :lol: I dare say I might be able to find something lying around at work, I'll have a look tomorrow. :oops: Today... it's late. Crap, I've got to go to work in a minute. ](*,) :lol:
     
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    Remember?

    Still got 'em!

    ;)

    pb

    p.s. are you on shifts Matt?
     
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    There's always ebay if you get stuck.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M4-M5-M6-M8-RED-FIBRE-FLAT-SEALING-WASHERS-INSULATING-FIBER-WASHER-GASKET-/122086652858?var=&hash=item1c6cee7bba:m:mfW0GeLdHpqflSvAfpSaxcg
     
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    Thanks, Stuart, but that's not them - they're fibre sealing washers. The missing item is made from a much harder material similar to that used on printed circuit boards and may be called delrin IIRC. It's more a spacer/insulator than for sealing purposes.

    The daft thing is, I can buy the two separate parts of the points (which I already have) but they come without the little brown intermediate washer (which I haven't!)... :doh:
     
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    I'm pretty sure I have one, I will go and look now,
    back in 10 mins...

    pb
     
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    :doh: .. Sorry David, I was sure I had one :whistle:

    I do have some of that insulating board though, it should be enough for quite a few washers? It may be too thick, 1/16" - 1.6mm ? any good ?

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    Go and find an old radio spares shop ,you should be able to get an insulator there.
    By the way what's the application ?
     
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    1/16" is standard thickness PCB Material.
    The fibreglass/epoxy stuff is called FR4.

    It is available in many thicknesses 1/32" is also common.

    If you have a local PCB manufacturer worth their salt they will almost certainly have FR4 pre preg in all sorts of thicknesses.
    This is the insulator material without any copper.

    I reckon you could scrounge some offcuts of pre preg for a small contribution to the tea fund.
     
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    Right, I think I've got what you want, I'll post a pic with sizes for you to check and then I'll pop it in an envelope and send it up to you. Genuine english made Lucas as well, so you know it's quality. :thumbup: :lol:

    No not on shifts, I don't get up until 7.30 in the morning, but anything past midnight is nearly time to get up. :lol:
     
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    Here she is. Outside diameter approx 11.2mm inside approx 5mm. Let me know if it's what your after, I'll try and get it in the post in the morning, 1st class, you might get it on Saturday. [-o<

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    And the box, I won't post that as well.
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    Thanks, Matt - you're a star! :thumbup: :clap: :D/ I'm off out now but I'll check the dimensions when I get back in later on. Only the internal diameter will be critical-ish, I think.

    Lister D stationary engine built in 1959, fitted with Lucas SR1 magneto...
     
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    I've probably got something that will do. At least a set of contact breakers unused.
    If stuck, try some milk carton material cut to size. You light have to scratch about for the right thickness though.
     
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    No problem David, I thought my boss would have something around, he knew exactly what was needed, it was just a case of finding it. :lol:
     
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    I have a fondness for the early DK stationary engines, I may even have one lurking at the back of my lockup in need of some TLC.

    HD
     
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    Thanks, Derek. I had the exactly same idea about making something suitable from a milk carton... :)
     
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    The brown insulating board was SRBD
    (Synthetic Resin Bonded Paper)
     
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    Thanks for the information, Digout. :thumbup:

    Look what the postie's just brought - it is, indeed, the very spacer/insulator washer! :D/ Many thanks, Matt - you're a O:) :clap:

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    I'll be putting this one in a very safe place indeed - back inside the magneto where it belongs! :p

    Update: Yesterday, I ordered £44 worth of parts etc. - the engine cost only £45 in the first place! Then there was £25 for a silencer (still mislaid), £50 for a trolley, £10 for a drain cock, £4.50 for a spark plug, £7 for a display nameplate and £22 for instruction manuals and books - what next? Oh, and £50 for a water pump so I can sit in a field somewhere, all day, looking very sad as it pumps water out of and back into a baby-bath containing a little dolly and a plastic duck. Can't wait! ;) :lol:

    P.S. Anybody got a suitable lighting set lying around?
     

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    Aye he's a good lad :thumbup:
     
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    Yes, and I hope you don't think you're getting off Scot-free, Ray - I might just have a little job for you yet! ;) :lol:
     
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    I know just how busy you are, Ray so failing everything else, you'll be my absolute, absolute last resort - promise! :lol:
     
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    Only teasing David, just under a bit of pressure to get our kitchen finished.......

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    See what I mean ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ;)
     

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    Glad it arrived safely David, I can't help with the lighting set though. :lol: :lol:

    Kitchen looks alright to me, they call it "Rustic" don't they? ;) :lol:
     
  26. David Shouksmith

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    The very word I was thinking of, Matt - 'rustic' - yes! :thumbup: Just slap a couple of coats of varnish on those bare bricks and call it good... :D/

    I'm hoping Nigel (KL80) Garlick might have something suitable or know where I can get one. Anyone got an email address for him?
     
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    Minimalist is the word you're searching for Matt,

    Soon to be Post-Minimalist by the look of those 30A cables?

    pb
     
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    Rustic and minimalist are neither words my Mrs uses to describe our kitchen :lol:

    Is it some machining you need ? PT me by all means but got a few bits to do first I'm afraid aside from the kitchen ;)

    I'd of thought Matt would have Nigel's email David
     
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    Possibly, but only if I can't sort it out another way or get someone up here to fabricate something. And there's no urgency, if at all... :thumbup:
     

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