Good evening all Just a little message To say i have picked up another two X246 TILLEY GUARDSMAN one has had fuel added to test ie by the local council stores And the other has never been tested and as new.
If I may highlight a point about tilley lamps on a particular bidding site . They use of X246 ref No is completely out of order and the word guardsman is being used at will . the painted tilley lamps are obvious once you have the information given at CPL It's not until you see this 1952 x246 and given the kind and helpful advice from CPL . That you realise there is much more to having a tilley lamp, with a bit of hindsight it is great to try and bring a lamp back to its original state. Knowing what one looks like in its original state is magic, hence I say well done CPL for the information that is collected . Could I suggest a CPL peer do a tips and advice for the well known site and let bidders know what they may be buying . Just a thought
The name X246 refers to a range of, I think, five different models produced between 1946 and 1962. For part of this period, Tilley used the designation 'Guardsman' although I'm unaware for how many years and for what time period - from previous discussions here, I'm not sure anyone does. Notwithstanding that, collectors here tend to refer generally to all the X246 non-pork pie types as Guardsman (Guardsmen?). The point being, of course, is that if we can't get it right (or, at least, choose not to), how can we expect eBay sellers to list their items with precision...
The way I see it from the reference section is quite clear as to what an older models is and the later models are .there appears to be a clear design change from each model . To call an X246A a guardsman does not seem to fit with the reference section / library . I think most entries in the library section leads me to good information as to the different models and the information given on request is sound. It is not the case of Ebay sellers not getting it right, its the case of misleading buyers on purpose The worse case scenario was an X246A painted silver and it was called chrome and called a guardsman model. Or am I to believe that what is being said is all tilley lamps are guardsman by name. I think there is clear definite distinctions in the library to support this. Of course I am always open to be corrected . What is the point of producing information to the point where it is "not right"
I think you need to bear in mind that a lot of items end up on ebay because the current owner has no interest them. They neither know nor care about what they have. All they want to do is get rid of an item and make a few quid. They'll have a look at a few other listings and take their information from there. Just look at the number who can't even spell Tilley correctly!
It's a strange old world:- http://www.classicpressurelamps.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/... I understand from some of the discussions on here that there are some carry tilley parts some mix match parts . This was explained at length and at poor old will ! as an exaggeration its probably like an error on a coin or a stamp. It is nothing like a gold hand painted or a silver painted Tilley lamp to look like it is original. It is fine if they say it is painted or as was said people just getting rid of their lamps. If the persons are able to overhaul /refurbish lamps ,they should be able to have a rough idea that they are misleading a buyer. I just thought that CPL peers could offer to buyers the benefit of their experience the same way a buyer of a gold coin on Ebay can find advice on buying and selling coins and other collectable items . And advocate the books that can be purchased and a link for advice to CPL . It was only a thought might encourage more membership.
