Hollow Wire Table Lamp, Lumiere Noel

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  1. Andreas Peuker

    Andreas Peuker Germany Subscriber

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    Hi Guys,

    I have put a nice toy into operation. A pair of French Hollow Wire table lamps.
    I could not find any information about these lamps yet.
    The hand wheel is marked with "Lumiere Noel BEC Eblouissant".

    Andreas

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  2. Tony Press

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    Andreas

    That is a beautiful set up. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: .

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  3. Michel

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    Yes, Andréas, Lumière Noël by the SIAE (or SI)
    Société Industrielle d'Articles d'Eclairage
    15 bld Richard Lenoir, Paris XI since 1880.
    you have an exemple I am fettling here :
    http://lampes-a-pression.les-forums.com/topic/1040/lampe-d-atelier-lumiere-noel-environ-1920/#last
    I'll present this workshop lamp soon on CPL and you can find some exemples in the french gallery.
    I have never seen such a model and it doesn't appears in the catalogues I own

    "Bec" = burner and "ébouissant" = dazzling
    Bté = breveté = patented
    SGDG = Sans garantie Du Gouvernement = without garanty of the government
    Ernest Noël claimed some patents of the first french pressure lamps circa 1900/05
     
  4. JEFF JOHNSON

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    A splendid set up! :thumbup: :clap: :clap: :thumbup:
     
  5. Andreas Peuker

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    Hi Michel,

    Thanks for your information. I could not find the lamps either.

    Andreas
     
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    Hello Andreas,

    Nice Lamps and here are some Pics from Eeckhout & Foubert Catalog.

    Cheers Peter

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  7. Andreas Peuker

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    Hi,

    thanks Peter!
     
  8. Michel

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    Peter ; nice catalog which is very important in the Noel saga.
    I didn't thought the "Noel system" belonged to Heeckhout.
    1834 creation of "Le chevretel & Heeckhout" 95 Boulevard Lenoir in Paris, XI
    then circa 1905, "Heeckhout & Foubert" 68.70 Quai de Jemmapes, Paris and 1.3.5.7 Rue Alibert, which is the adress of DBD since 1919/20 (the purchase of Heeckhout & Foubert by Dutrut, Bernier, Desrues)
    these 3 societies are "fabriques d'ustensiles de ménages en gros"
    in english, something like "wholesale factories in household utensils"

    In 1921, throught a Lumière Noel catalog, we have the knowledge the SIAE (Société Industrielle d'articles d'Eclairage) at 95 boulevard Lenoir, Paris, XI.
    This society exists since 1880.
    therefore, I can guess the SIAE have a factory (of a great range of wick lamps and "lumière Noel pressure system) which were sold by those 3 companies.
    We progress in knowledge.

    Finally, this can explain the likeness beetween the Noel burner, Liberty and DBD burner.

    Andreas ; have you a stamping on the burner head ?
     
  9. Andreas Peuker

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    Michel, no there is no stamp on the burner. Only the handwheel is stamped.
     
  10. Michel

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    this kind of burner would be the "P"
    I don't know what that means though

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    I also have a "bec éblouissant" on my rafale lamp.
    here : http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/7840
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    But as you can see this is not really the same even if it could have some similarities

    I was puzzling about the logo on your knobs. It doesn't seems to be the SI (Société Industrielle) logo. I understood now : on your knob is missing the middle of the S letter.
    It gives this :

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    Hi Andreas,
    Beautiful old French lamp!
    Congatulations :clap:
    Titoo
     
  12. Conny C

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    Andreas - Lovely old Noel hollow wire set and great getting these running. Also love the coiled ends of the hw tubing :thumbup: !

    Peter - Very intersting paper getting another piece in the French pressure lamp manufacturing puzzle!

    /Conny
     
  13. Andreas Peuker

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    Hello Conny,


    I find hollow wire also great! Here's my last production!

    Andreas

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  14. Conny C

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    Andreas, making coiled tubing is fun :lol: !!!!

    /Conny

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  15. Andreas Peuker

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    Conny, very, very nice!
     
  16. Andreas Peuker

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    Hi,

    My Hollow Wire Trio from France. A Liotard ceiling lamp in action.

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