Coleman 285 or 295 conversion to kerosene/paraffin

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  1. ColinG United Kingdom

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    Simple question lantern friends, is there a way to convert either a 285-700 or a 295 powerhouse to run on kerosene/paraffin? I'm guessing our American or maybe Canadian cousins might have some ideas on how to do this.

    I assume I would need one of the Coleman kerosene generators that will fit, plus I will need a preheating cup to get the fuel to vaporize once it's hot enough. I searched the forums but couldn't find anything but maybe there is already a thread here somewhere?

    Colin
     
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    :-s :? Why would you want to do that? :-k
     
  3. ColinG United Kingdom

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    A number of reasons, Coleman fuel is very expensive, petrol is cheap enough but if I keep using it, the generators will get gummed up, and in the event of a failure, petrol tends to cause quite serious problems including injury and death (OK I'm joking a bit but it's not the safest of fuels to mess around with even though I use petrol stoves pretty frequently!
     
  4. ColinG United Kingdom

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    Also, can anyone identify this item I have 3 of them. The packet is marked 603218 but I can't find any reference to that on any Coleman parts list.

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    BTW, the jet (if that's what it is) is roughly 6mm or 7mm long with an internal hole
     
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    That is a jet or nipple from a generator. The I stamp indicates an orifice of .0085 from memory. This jet would have been used on a 237 generator (and probably other generators as well).
     
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    Re. converting a gas lantern to kerosene - a 242B or a 200A would be better candidates. Alternatively as you are in the UK find a 201 lantern which takes lerosene and are relatively common over there.
     
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    Other Coleman kerosene models that turn up frequently in the UK include 339,639,249 and the above mentioned 237.
     
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    The older Coleman 220 or 228 E, F and H are good candidates for a conversion but the newer models with the pressed steel pancake type burner galleries tend to be less successful.

    Some members of CCF have reported success on the later (dual fuel/unleaded) models like yours with the unmodified original generator and only a preheat cup added.

    Be aware that paraffin lamps generate a lot more heat and a heat shield is advisable to protect the valve innards, which may contain plastic parts on newer models.
     
  9. ColinG United Kingdom

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    Thanks for the info. When I'm feeling brave I'll drain the tank on one of em and have a go... probably the 285.
     
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    thanks for the ideas
     
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    Interesting note on my 220F conversion was almost no discernible temperature difference. It might be due to the smaller jet size allowing less paraffin through.
     
  12. phaedrus42

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    The 220 probably does not get quite as hot with either fuel as a 236 or 237 does. But if you look at the difference in vent condition between your average 236 vs. 237 and the 242 vs. 249 it speaks volumes.
     
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    Hi all .. I am planning to do this kero conversion soon .. I have studied much... read up notes .. I have aquired
    a Coleman 693 generator new.. which all but a couple of thou's in length fits and so all I require now is
    a preheater cup... candle light holder could suffice and a donor.." time expired 295 Dual fuel lantern"..
    I will wait a bit when done post my findings,, all above duly noted
     
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    re last .. I meant a Coleman 639 generator ... !!!
     
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    So work done .. the below named in the you tube clip was my mentor on this one ... plus all the
    aforementioned advice and comments rendered here .. which I have all but took on board..



    I suppose most are familiar with this clip ... this work took about 2 hours to kerofinize my 295 D/Fuel
    lantern ... I used a Coleman 639 kero generator which is near identical fit..a 28mm copper stop end
    some 10 mm copper pipe , solder , flux and a superb little gas gun..for soldering .. incidentally which has many uses..in the kitchen and garage/ lamp lighting uses.. having made the preheat cup, my dremel and other electric drill used .. a small round file needed..and hack saws... fitted and fired up a treat .... cost new generator about £11.00 currently on E Bay, copper etc £3.00.. the rest I already had.. DIY etc ..

    so I filled it up , fired it up and it is ticking away in my garden.. and has been so for the last 3 hours now .. no petrol lurking about ...all my lamps are kero now .. My Coleman lamp was little used but not new I suppose it hasless plastic in it than the new designs may be ... light is just a tad less .. heat a little more.
    Good luch
     
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    @Alby
    Congratulations getting yours working. :thumbup:
    Can we see some pictures of your?
     
  17. Alby

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    Well I am not very good at this so I will give it a go..

    Jpg 1 shows the lamp and all my diy tools and parts needed for this work ... the
    small gas soldering torch type 503 was outstanding in fact . Had it 2 years never
    let me down yet ..

    Jpg 2 shows the lamp illumination this morning it is a
    dark day here with much rain about in the uk ... shots taken on my Samsung Mobile
    the shots taken in front of my garage .. it is a .very cluttered at the moment... I lit my " keroized " 295
    last night it performed quite " brilliantly " .. I have a Coleman 693 and it was just as good..
    pressure held up.. very controllable in fact ..

    Good luck to all
     

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