Different Petromax 826

Today I'm fettling a Petromax 826 that I bought yesterday and noticed that it had some differences from the others in the gallery. There are four indentations in the top of the fount for the burner frame to locate in. The design of the frame is also different wrt holes/slots. There is no date code on the bottom of the fount. Even though it has no rapid torch it does have a foot valve.
Can anyone perhaps enlighten me?

 

Hi Phil,

that's a "sicke" 826, produced only from 1954 and 1956.

Nicola

 

Thanks, Nicola; I was wondering about that after the recent discussion about the 833 sicke. On my 1938 827 the "sicke" runs all the way around the fount.

 

Only the lanterns with 4 indents/beads are called "Sicke".
And were built somewhen 1954-1958.
This might vary between the individual models.

When you polish the tank base, you should find scratched numbers.
E.g. 10/5 = Oct 1955

Regards
Willi

 

You were more right than you knew, Willi; on close inspection it is actually marked by free hand 10/5 close to the rim.

 

Interesting. I was not aware this model had been made in after WW2. Cool find. More pictures please. ::Neil::

 

It was the model which (from 1954-1956) came between the post-war models with vertical oblong slots in the collar and the models that were manufactured until the end of production with the horizontal rectangular slots and the ribbed collar.
The short production time is the reason why they are quite rare.

 

Last year I found same Petromax here in great shape. You gentlemen also explained the date and model for me. How it got here near Toronto Ontario Canada I do not know. Yes I will post a photo of it when I clean it up but right now it is snowing!! So too cold to fettle in the garage.
Cameo

 

I'll post some more pics as I re-assemble it, hopefully this evening.

 

After a bit of a struggle with a completely blocked preston loop and a layer of brown muck in the fount, it is clean and running again with a vintage Coleman mantle.
I'll post the detail photos in the reference gallery in due course.

 

10 pointed star and no E in the G.

 

Sure, E within G is found in pre 1953 lamps. Great fettle, these sicke petromax are great solid lamps.

 

Here you can find some information about E&G patents.

Problem was they had to solve was to get the heat building up in the frame not reaching the tank.
So there where several designs.

 

The fount does get moderately warm with the lamp burning in still air. Not as warm as its 200-250cp siblings and cousins though.

 

An excellent find!

 

Nice save.
Do all the later 826’s have a foot valve? I have two later model German made 826’s but have only removed the valve off one of them and it has a foot valve. Neither of them are rapids.

 

This would run no problem on a 250cp nozzle if your thought the tank was getting hot. Fine looking lantern.

 

What it looks like in daylight

 

To my knowledge all the "later" models with the "non central mounted" straight type vaporizer have the foot valve, although you won't need it to operate them.

 

Nice looking lantern. Came out well.

 

There is a fine stainless steel gauze in the bottom of the foot valve, and with the fount having had a layer of sludge inside that gave me two good reasons to remove the lower vaporiser from the fount. It is really only useful to have a working foot valve when transporting the lantern with fuel in the fount or when burning in a fresh mantle. I would not let it stand for any length of time under pressure or shut it down with the control cock.

 

Exelent find!!!
Very nice and bright lamp in good condition.

Regards, Frank

 

Hi Martin K.,
This Aida has the horizontal rectangular slots but without the ribbing on the collar. Where or when does this falls under? No dates found anywhere on the lantern. Is it close to the time of Phaedrus42's Petromax here?

 

Hi @MYN ,
I'v no idea about the exact date. However I guess that it's a post-war model made in Altena/Germany. It could be that they tried to differentiate the lantern brands a bit by changing some design items, such as the ribs in the collar or the type of preheater lever. Are there any numbers stamped in the bottom?
BR, Martin K.

 

There where no AIDA's made in altena only petromax lanterns.

Assumed ! is that the post war AIDA lanterns where made by Hipolito, but there is no evidence.

 

I have one or two AIDA which are marked with "Made in Germany", one of them is a 1250 "Sicke". I have also an AIDA wich is marked with "Germany", this one is made by Hipolito.

 

There are no numbers stamped at the fount's bottom for this Aida. Its marked Made in Germany. The collar looks smooth like Phaedrus42's Petromax but does not have the indentations/beads. The rapid preheater lever looks like the description in the German patent DE951204 as indicated on the link provided by WimVe here.

 

Wait...i've read some publications by Anton Kaim in www.petromax.nl on the Aida and Petromax. I think these features were found on those that were manufactured sometime between 1954 to 1956/57. These Aidas looked almost identical to the 50s/60s Petromaxes from Altena. Always wondered if they're made there as well or not.

 

Terry Marsh says on his site that they were made in Germany side by side with the Petromax. The example I have (1955) says "Made In Germany".

 

I've read somewhere that the Graetzs had acquired or assumed some rights or ownership of Aida on these things sometime ago. In the later years after the 50s to 60s, there seem to be no more Aida lanterns being made anymore.
I may not be correct.