Antique Coleman Lamp?

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  1. Cake444

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    Hello everybody,

    A friend of mine has an antique Coleman lamp that requires two new mantles.

    Could anybody help identify the lamp? Also are mantles available for this model?

    Thanks very much :)

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  2. Neighbor Al

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    That's a CQ table lamp with a Q99 generator/vapourizer. Very nice that it has the built-in pump.

    This lamp can use Coleman #21 mantles, but some recommend the smaller #20 to prevent heat from damaging the fuel knob.

    Personally, I prefer the Peerless 2C-HG mantles that are likely easier for you to get.

    Tell more! Does it hold pressure? Does the pump work? Is the generator/vapourizer working or fouled?

    You'll need to use Coleman Fuel in this lamp for good operation.
     
  3. Mackburner

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    No this is not a CQ lamp. With that tank and a built in pump it is model C331. ::Neil::
     
  4. Neighbor Al

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    I ran over to Terry Marsh's site and now I'm confused. Cake444's lamp has CQ stamped on the base, but a pump and Q99 generator that are out of place.

    How do any of us know what it is? (Besides a very nice looking lamp)

    Al
     
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    Yes these are confusing lamps. Mainly this is because Coleman in the late 1920s and early 1930s tended to use up old stock base plates so you get CQ stamped in the base of both C types and some of the Instant-Lite lamps such as 117 118 and 119. This is one area where the info on the lamp does not always agree with the catalouge information. Took us years to work this out. Anyway here is a part page from the 1930 parts catalogue which shows the C and C331 lamps. ::Neil::
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  6. Cake444

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    Hi guys,

    Thank you for your replies! It’s much appreciated.

    The lamp is fully functional and in good working order but my friend needs some mantles and Coleman fuel/panel wipe to get it started efficiently.

    I can only find mantle # 21's in regulate supply over here in the UK. A bit like the link below.

    http://www.rei.com/product/638672/coleman-20-tie-mantles-package-of-2

    Would these be ok as I will be buying around 4 sets?
     
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    You can use the number 21 mantles, but the number 20 mantles are better, Jeff.
     
  8. Mackburner

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    Coleman 21s are fine. I know the 20s will work a tad better but I have very few of those and plenty of 21s so that is what I use on these twin mantle lamps. Strictly speaking they are well over size but they do work OK. One thing you might do first though once you have a suitable fuel such as panel wipe or Aspen T4 is try a burn without mantles. A fairly low pressure and pre heat the generator with a gentle blow torch flame running past both mantle carriers and you should get a nice blue Bunsen flame from each. Doing this means you get to know if the lamp will work right without wasting a pair of mantles if it does not. ::Neil::
     
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    One of the risks of using the 21s in lieu of the 20s is that they extend lower and tempt the operator to push out more light with more pressure.

    The heat that they generate has a tendency to melt/damage the fuel knob...

    21s are really just fine, but do exercise restraint on pumping up the lamp.

    Are Peerless mantles unavailable over there? Really a much better product than the Coleman mantles...
     
  10. Mackburner

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    Well this is true of course but you can't over pressure one of those tanks so it is really only a matter of preserving the control wheel.

    Peerless in the UK? Not hardly. ::Neil::
     
  11. David Shouksmith

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    I get them via eBay USA from the E. J. Basnett Hardware Company of Houston, Texas. I deal with a chap called Enoch, who may well be E.J. Basnett himself. Their eBay name is 'ejbasnettco'.

    They're very good - always eager to please their customers. I can't remember what the cost was for the last batch of mantles I got, but they were very reasonable indeed.

    They also have fuelcap seals for Coleman lanterns and other odds and ends. I'd recommend 'em... :thumbup:

    Edit - They were $2.25 for a packet of four + $1.97 S+H. A total cost of $4.22 (=~£2.70) i.e. less than 70 pence each...
     
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  12. WimVe

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    If we are talking baout the same:

    U-shape mantles

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    And they speak english too.
     
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    I deal with Enoch too. He has all the small (Tiny)screws that are so hard to find in these lanterns and lamps. He is injection moulding the cap seals. Does them for AGM's and others.

    Apparently will be adding an "Esq" after his name sometime soon.

    A multi-talented individual.

    Dan MacPherson

    PS Cigar Mike at www.oldcolemanparts.com carries a full line of the Peerless mantle. These are made in the Phillipines by Sam Blank, another swell guy, the company he owns used to produce them for coleman.
     
  14. David Shouksmith

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    :-s Meaning what, Dan? :?

    AFAIA, the correct use of Esq. is merely to replace the title in a person's address. So you may write to me as 'Mr. David Shouksmith' or 'David Shouksmith Esq.' It's not an honour or anything - at least it ain't here!

    Whatever, he's a jolly decent chap... :thumbup:
     
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    Sorry David.
    I should have elaborated. "Esquire"
    I believe Enoch is in the process of becoming a lawyer.

    I wonder if the term means the same thing in the UK. That is what I meant, anyway.

    Best Wishes
    Dan
     
  16. David Shouksmith

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    No, Esquire doesn't denote a lawyer in the UK - they usually just have the letters of their law degree after their name, LL.B. or whatever.

    Of course, the population at large generally tends to ignore the letters and adds certain words (few of them complimentary) after a lawyer's name. Many of them seem to be held in as little esteem as estate agents, or 'realtors' as I think you call them over there...
     
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    Yes-that is true here, and everywhere I think.
    Dan
     
  18. Mackburner

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    Yes one of those odd titles you don't see used much now. The other one is Master instead of Mister used for denoting a child as opposed to the Mister for an adult. ::Neil::
     
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    I know that this thread/post is a few years old but now my interest is leading me towards getting a Coleman indoor lamp such as the model discussed above, the C331 along with the Coleman 118 colored glass lamp shade, such as the one pictured below. Looking for this particular style & shade?

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    Does anyone have a Coleman lamp (such as the one mentioned in my previous post) that they 'actually' use indoors (in your house/living quarters)?

    If so, could you share your opinion and or views on the matter?
     
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    My apologies but the model (118) lamp shade is incorrect, that I previously posted.

    The correct model glass lamp shade is a Coleman glass ribbed 307. Believe it came in three colors, white, green and salmon/pinkish, maybe red?
     
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    If you want to use the 21 mantle just tie it above the usual tie spot.
     

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