Two coleman lamps I just got.

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  1. Blacksmith1964

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    Just wondering if anyone knows anything about them. I'm not really into lamps (though I think they're cool, I'm more of a stove guy)
    I thought I'd post a few photos and see if anyone can tell me about them;
    Here they are together;
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    The side of the green one;
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    Bottom of the green one;
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    the side of the silver one;
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    If anyone can give me info about them (dates and such) it would be much appreciated. I have them both on the trade forums over at Spiritburner if anyone's interested. I'm looking for a box stove in trade.
     
  2. RonPH

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    Hey Blacksmith, it might be old. The last two digits shown on the fount tells me on is 1935 and the other 194x...cant read the last digit. They are great desk lamps acutally. I own the Coleman 129 which is perhaps in the 40's to 50's and run on kerosene. Its easy to fettle those lamps. The only difficult side is finding a milk shade for the other one. The one with the shade, the mica can be replaced. Am sure one of the members would be interested in it.

    Ron
     
  3. Blacksmith1964

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    Thanks for the reply Ron.
    The first one says 46 on it, sorry I didn't take a closer photo of it.

    The tanks seem to be intact though I have no way to pressurize them. I assume that the hole in the little screw in part on the fill cap is the key to getting pressure into the tank. I just have no way of doing that.
    The rest of it, though a bit sooty, seems to be in good order.
     
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    Hello and welcome aboard! :thumbup:

    The lamp which has the green tank is dated 1-46, which is January 1946, the other lamp is dated 3-35, which is March 1935.

    The link below shows my example with it's pump, the pumps turn up on Ebay often and they are usually nickle plated, Jeff.

    http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/957
     
  5. RonPH

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    Those lamps are definitely older than me. It took time for me to find a milkshade. Now its a lovely conversation piece and light it up once in a while.

    Ron
     
  6. Neighbor Al

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    Blacksmith,

    Coleman pumps are frequently listed on Ebay. PM me if you can't get your hands on one.

    Al
     
  7. Blacksmith1964

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    Thanks for the offer Al, but I'm not really interested in lanterns.
    I'm more of a stove guy.
    That's why these two are listed for trade over at Spiritburner. If I could, I'd list them here too...
     
  8. Dan D

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    There are a couple of things that I find interesting about this 168K.
    First is that Coleman Canada was still using the Quick-Lite burner as late as 1946 and second, that they were using the R55 with kerosene. I assume that besides adding the pre-heater cup, they also added the reducer in the air tube.

    If I recall correctly, Coleman USA did recommend the R55 as a replacement for the Q99 in the gas Quick-Lites, and after a dubious experiment with the slant generator burner, standardized on the Instant-Lite burner for kerosene, gas and hybrid models. But this was in the late 20s or early 30s.
    Was there a USA kerosene model using the R55? For burning kerosene they offered the T44K generator and for gas, the T44, but the burner was the same except for the addition of a cup and a reducer in the kerosene and hybrid models. I also assume that the kerosene only models had a simple fuel tube instead of the F/A tube.
    Why was the relation between Coleman Canada and Coleman USA, that they would make such different choices?

    For some interesting reading about the Jumbo R55 generator check here for the patent. This seems to be an improvement over the original "skinny" R55.

    This patent looks like the T44K. I always assumed the restriction at the bottom of the generator had something to do with burning kerosene. According to the patent, it was there to prevent the cleaning needle from falling out, deemed to be a big improvement (but not mentioning the fact that users could not service the generator to prolong its usable life).

    Dan
     
  9. Mackburner

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    Kero products were never popular in the US but they were in Canada. Also Canada were exporting a lot to the UK and other British empire/commonwealth countries who generally prefered Kero and that was a big market. Consequently Canada developed kero fueled lamps much more than the US plant did. They tended to do pretty much their own thing so it is no surprise to find kero product differing from the US types. ::Neil::
     

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