What have I bought?

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  1. phaedrus42

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    It is the one on the right ;) I'll be picking them up this afternoon, but I have so far not matched up the model with anything I've seen.


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    Don't know but that shape suggests something to do with a Coleman arc lamp maybe?
     
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    There were some lamps that had fine wire mesh insect guards like this one.

    The distinguishing characteristics of the lamp are:
    -Metal rod connecting valve and burner
    -Short air tube
    -Hexagonal fuel cap with external pump NRV
    -Badge attached to side of fount
     
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    This is a Coleman CQ table lamp with the bug screen. Nice item because the bug screens are a rare thing and this one looks complete and in reasonable condition. ::Neil::
     
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    Thanks, but are you quite sure, Neil? There are no markings to be seen on or under the fount. The generator is interesting as the jet is not removable and it has a hexagonal fitting with very fine screw thread on the bottom. The lamp only cost me a tenner, but I had to drive 55 miles to fetch it :lol:

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    And CQ's have a separate collar covering the lower part of the stem where it attach to the tank.
    This one seems to have the conical shaped part made directly in the tank itself, and the stem mounted without any sort of covering.
    More like one of the Nulite 110M versions.
    By that not saying that this is a Nulite. Just that the tank is similar, but I guess there are others who use similar design.
    Here's Conny's 110M.:
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    The burner assembly does looks similar to the Coleman Yale Arc, Air-O-Lantern 319 and Air-O-Lite lamp.
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    That decorative thingy at the top of the lamp looks like the one on Mackburner's 1916 Gloria in the Gallery.

    Tony
     
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    I see that they suggest Veritas at the Coleman forum.
    That seems to be pretty close to the truth.
    The Veritas burner look about right.
    But not exactly the same lamp as Conny's Nova, as they suggest.
    That one look a bit different when it comes to the tank (as seen here.)
     
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    Yes, Christer, there are slight differences in the fount, valve body, knob, generator and shade carrier brackets. I can see no trace on the handle of my one that there was ever a badge.

    It is a very easy fettle, though. All the parts came apart with finger pressure and I have given it a basic clean, shine, pressure test and test burn.
     
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    From a Gloria catalogue.

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    Anthony

    What date is that ad?

    And the top decorative thingy seems to appear on Glorias at least...

    Cheers

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    Tony, the only dates I can find are in testimonials and the latest is mid 1926.
     
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    Yes I got that wrong for sure. Second time in a week too I must be getting old. Comes of making quick guesses at 2.00am. It is one of those lamps that Gloria never gave a model number. It is listed in the PLC as Gloria model D. Mid 1920s will be about right. ::Neil::
     
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    :thumbup: !

    Cheers

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    Thanks for the responses, everyone! All I still need to get this one operational is the bushing that screws into the air tube where the generator goes in. It looks like these parts were made with more than one internal diameter, to suit different generator diameters.
     
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    I made an adapter from some odd bits of brass I had lying around and was able to fire up the lamp today. She's a very quiet runner and provides good light with moderate fount pressure. She has no trouble filling out a pair of Peerless 2C-HG mantles.

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    Well fettled! :thumbup: :D/ :clap: :D/ :clap: :thumbup:
     
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    I have just discovered I got this one wrong again. It is not Gloria model D at all. It is in fact a lamp I don't have listed. I have learnt a bit since 2013 and another version of this lamp has just surfaced but with the alternative torch lighting burner. It has tank and handle from models D, H and AE. but the valve and burner unit from C, E, G and AF. Gloria is an evil list of lamps to sort out and I know we don't have it all yet. So this one will become Gloria model AL and the PLC will be altered accordingly. ::Neil::
     
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    That is very interesting, Neil! Are you referring to the one acquired by @JohanOptimus ?
    From the photos he sent me it appears to be mostly identical to mine apart from the valve, generator and insect guard.

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    Yes this is the same lamp with a different generator but it was advertised as available with either a torch lit or match lighting generator. ::Neil::
     
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    Thanks for your input Phil and Neill.
    My lamp is very similar to the one in this thread. The generator is very thin, straight, had no pricker and requires preheating. Unfortunately I found it without a shade. I have fettled it and it has been running for about an hour. She is not very bright, but very beautiful. Note that the shade ia not correct.

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    Hi Johan, the lamp should be quite bright if the generator passes enough fuel and has the correct size jet. A jet from a 500cp kerosene Coleman lantern like the 237 has the same aperture as that of a 300cp petrol lamp.
    You can test fuel flow through the jet by unscrewing the burner assembly from the valve and checking that you get a straight uninterrupted stream of fuel shooting out when you open the valve (outdoors). If you do not get this, the generator needs cleaning and/or re-packing.
     

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