1924/25 Lilor table N° 1964

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  1. Michel

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    Hello all
    some time ago i have presented a Lilor lamp table which was in very bad condition because of an electrification.
    see here ; http://www.classicpressurelamps.com/forum/showtopic.php?fid/6/tid/4701/

    I have "taken my courage with two hands" and with the help of a friend, I began the restauration. The bottom of the lamp was cut off, the plunger was missing, the gasoline line broken also and there were holes everywhere.


    A sheet of iron have been soldered at the bottom but this was not solid, so I flowed some epoxy resin mixed with wood powder. A new plunger was soldered, the holes clogged, a sleeve fitted on the gasoline tube because it was broken, and so on.

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    I am happy to show you a Lilor n° 1964 in working order.

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  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Hello Michel, great fettling as always! :thumbup: :D/ :clap: :D/ :clap: :thumbup:

    That is a really elegant lamp! :thumbup: :thumbup: Jeff.
     
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    Beautyfull lamp Michel as always and well done Work. The bottom plate looks just new. :mrgreen:
    How do you put the resin inside the tank? How soft is the resin, does it float despite the woodpowder? What Tool do you use? :-k

    Claus C
     
  4. Michel

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    hello Claus
    the resin is not in the tank. I have filled the space between the iron sheet and the edge of the brass. This kind of resin is made with three parts of resin for 1 part of hardener. you mix and you obtain something like a liquid honey.
    then you can mix differents sorts of stuff.
    the wood powder is used to make gluing in boat construction, for example.
    The more you use powder, the more the gluing is resistant, because in itself the resin is not really solid. But the mix becomes denser.
    You have to put a maximum of powder but the resin must stay liquid enough, in this case the resin spreads out by itself.
    I have around 7/8 mm
     
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    Great job, I'll remember that process :thumbup:

    Just a little curious, why wasn't the "Iron" sheet strong enough ? Was the gauge to thin perhaps ?
     
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    It's been a long time since I have posted on here, mainly the reason most my collect is stoves and blowlamps with about half a dozen pressure lanterns.
    But its nice to join in once in a while, well done michel superb work, its really nice seeing a beautiful lamp that has been brutalised in such a way, and put back in to use the way it was intended.
    I detest seeing these lanterns and some beautiful wick lamps that have been electrified, I think this was a common thing back in the 70's, in my opinion total vandalisem.
    May be a thicker gauge metal would have made it more solid, but a brilliant idea using epoxy and sawdust to make the base more solid.
     
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    Hi Michel,

    Great job and another one saved :thumbup: ! The middle image of the "new" soldered steel bottom plate seems OK. Why wasn´t that enough? Did you remove (unsolder) the remains of the original bottom plate?

    /Conny
     
  8. Michel

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    thank you all
    yes, the old bottom have been removed and the new has been soldered, but when i have pressurised, it appears to be too thin and I was afraid it could break because of swelling.
    we have used a thin sheet because it was difficult to insert in place. A thin sheet was easier to slip
     
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    Nice work Michel.

    I guess you have all the french models more the once ! ;-)

    Can you tell us how you make the fuel tubes ?
    Besides the fact you need to find the right size of tube you also must be able to make the connecting parts.
     
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    Beautifully restored Michel.
     
  11. Michel

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    hi all
    I have not, at this day, all the range of french lamps but I work for ;-)
    I picked up the connecting parts on an old rusty Lilor stove (only the brass parts was saveable)
    So, i had to drill the conic connections at the size of the copper tube, and to resolder. The tube can be bought in a modelism shop but this one was only cracked, so we have soldered a small brass sleeve.
    those tubes are sold in "half hard" quality, so this is very easy to twist this quality on a tool at the good radius. it is not necessary to fill the tube of sand, to heat the tube, and caetera.

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    fortunately, i have a friend who is able to do new nuts. In the modelism shops, you can buy exagonal tubes in different sizes and lenght (20, 50 cm) My friend says "you only have to" cut at the good size, to drill and do the good thread. easy, isn't it !!!
    but he is a master in modelism.
     
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  12. longilily United Kingdom

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    Hi Michel

    Yes, maybe the gauge was a little to thin,i understand the difficulty in forming the thicker gauge steel, good fettle though Michel ! You acquire some very nice lamps :thumbup:

    Cheers
     

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