Quite possibly .. something to do with 'taking back control of our laws and our destiny'.. wasn't it??
There was that last minute trade agreement paraphrased and temporarily put into effect before ratification. So I would say: "no tariffs and fees". If you want to know for sure you just got to read through some 4500 pages of crap. (The good old Netscape Navigator is listed as "recent internet technology" and other nonsense) More practicable: Wait and see what comes out and what governments and judges will make of the pile of papers. Erik
I’d be interested to know by whom is the 20% surcharge levied/collected (seller? Ebay?) and whether the ‘VAT’ actually reaches the Exchequer. I suspect not. My experience of purchases from non-EU sources prior to Brexit was that VAT was collected by our Customs, but often missed. Post-Brexit I don’t see why that should change. John
It seems that domestic UK law changed on the 1st of Jan such that online sales platforms like eBay are now required to collect VAT at the point of sale on foreign purchases, rather than customs at import. The VAT exemption for orders under £15 has also been abolished. At the same time, because of Brexit, goods coming into the UK from the EU are treated the same as non-EU imports and VAT is now payable. On new goods, in theory the UK buyer does not have to pay VAT in the country of origin but of course this doesn't apply to second-hand goods.
Is this a discussion about pressure lamps per se or about the wider issues of "Brexit and VAT", in which case it has no place in this particular forum. Just wondrin'...
A lamp’s pictured in it at least David, which too often isn’t the case in the ‘right’ forum! But fair comment @David Shouksmith John
Well, that's correct, John - a lantern IS pictured but there's no reference to it, either in the first post or any subsequent one. I'd hate to think this would become some sort of political debate where folk start to fall out with each other...
A more correct place would be the "Open Forum" where people can discuss whatever they like, keeping it civil, of course. A moderator can move this post to the Open Forum. It is then up to the moderators to guard over used language & all. @David Shouksmith @presscall
2021 UK and EU VAT changes | UK Seller Centre I think that this explains it. I think that the trade deal was about import/export duty but not VAT - in either direction. Chris
Similar events here in Canada with eBay since about 6 months ago. Depending on the buyer's location, eBay pops on the appropriate tax to the seller invoice. In my monthly statements as a seller, eBay is managing the remittance to the government. Always wondered when the good ol' Canada Revenue Agency would realize the amount of untaxed commerce on eBay... Mike.
Sorry didn't intend to turn this into a political thread about Brexit, just wanted to focus on the issue of shipping lamps into and out of the EU, which is I'm sure something a lot of us do. One good thing about the changes is you can buy items up to £135 on eBay from e.g. the USA or China without getting stung for the £8 customs clearance fee.
Changes to VAT treatment of overseas goods sold to customers from 1 January 2021 For goods sent from overseas and sold directly to UK consumers without OMP involvement, the overseas seller will be required to register and account for the VAT to HMRC. So if a lamp collector in Germany wants to sell me a lamp, he would have to register with the UK tax authorities and charge me VAT?
I honestly don't see the harm. The Podbros comment was funny and true, it really depicts the absurdity and shortcomings of Brexit. That you can't figure out the new VAT to ship a darn lamp illustrates well the political/economic pickle Brexit has put the Uk in. There is humor in contradictions , we laugh to keep from crying. lol
That's fine as long as you're aware some people might have another view and you don't take things personally. What you've written above is your truth and others may well find that very contentious. I suspect a lot of members are currently biting their tongues or have more sense than to respond. Frankly, I'd rather concentrate on what we agree on...
Pointing out the ironies, contradictions, unintended consequences and illusions of Brexit is just a fact not an individual truth .It has been since the beginning and will be even more clear as Brexit evolves because for whatever the wide range of reasons some supported Brexit its still a Uk political movement and subject to the same shortcomings, false promises, manipulations, power dynamics as every other political movement .
A good example is during the FT negotiations with the EU, Boris with great bravado and condescension lectured the the EU on Brit sovereignty . Then the mutated strain of C-19 hit the Uk and the FRENCH closed the border and other EU countries stopped incoming travel from " plague island". Britain's response, pleading with the French and obedience to the the EU travel demands. Its the illusion of the power of sovereignty that Brexit was to bestow on Britain that is the real fact.
