Can anyone help identify the language and what's written

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  1. Arun Kumar India

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    I just acquired this kerosene lamp, supposed to be from a trawler. Which language is it written in and what does it say? Appreciate your responses! IMG-20220808-WA0022~2.jpg IMG-20220808-WA0021.jpg IMG-20220808-WA0024.jpg
     
  2. ColinG United Kingdom

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    It might be Russian or Ukranian maybe, it's written in Cyrillic script I think.
     
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    Either way it's mostly abbreviations. I don't know the letter in black and the letter in the red square looks like a stylised letter N but that's not a Cyrillic letter.

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    Top line reads: chpp N 1
    The first letter on the second line could be Л (L) or П (P)
    so, LEN or PEN. OTD. VOG.
    Third line: ? oct
     
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    From other research on Russian marked things:
    The stylised western "N" was used in place of "No." or "number" usually before or above a serial number. Probably adopted from the French.
    Third line the C is and S so OST. It may mean "East"
    The other letter circled in red above is also not a cryillic letter. It was commonplace to put a G " г." (similar) after a year to signify the year of manufacture "года" / Year but the lamp looks newer than 1896 ?
    There are several languages that use cyrillic letters including several non-slavic languages, although I have never seen the "N" on anything else but Russian made items.
    As the item has been discovered in India - we cannot discount the idea that it is of more modern "copycat" manufacture. No less a valid object to possess as it is obviously not new therefore of interest. It also may have been modified/repaired from its orginal form. The gallery looks hand-beaten and the frame seems out of place
    Perhaps a natural Russian speaker might have more luck with the abbreviations.
     
  5. gena88 Russian Federation

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    This abbreviation means: "training and production enterprise No. 1 of the All-Union Society of the Deaf in the city of Leningrad"
    8354 - inventory number, made according to the standard of 1953. This enterprise produced various lamps and lanterns for the river and marine civil fleet.
     
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    Thanks @gena88 - fascinating facts ! - so the original post above would have been made in be 1968 ?
     
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    Thanks for the information.:thumbup:
     
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    Thank you so much
     

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