Coleman 285 & 295 Question

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  1. Shed-Man R.I.P.

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    Hope someone can help. I have searched the site but cannot find an answer to what is probably a dumb question. I have no experience with Coleman lamps but recently got a 285 "Dual Fuel" and a 295 "Power House", both twin mantle lamps, really only to play with and find out how they are put together. Q. When burning-in the mantles and then lighting the lamps do you do this with the glass removed or in place? There appears to be little space under the glass to actually get a match to the mantles even after they have burnt in. If the glass has to be removed for subsequent lightings there is a risk of damaging the mantles each time. I must be missing a trick. Thanks - Steve.
     
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    Don't these have two slots in the baseplate where you stick the match through..?

    From memory, long matches are more convenient.
     
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    As David mentioned there is a small slot for a long match or one of the popular long butane lighters.

    With the bail being attached to the vent you only need to unscrew the bail nut in order to remove the globe. Not the best idea and a victim of doing it the cheaper way.

    There is a chance to bump a mantle with the glass so it's best to try it with your beverage on the table.
     
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    Thanks David and John, Yep see it now. I guessed that may be the answer, but found that matches did not burn too well as they seemed a bit short of oxygen to keep going. Anyway, going out to the shed now to flash them up. Thanks again - Steve.
     
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    Thanks guys, got them going; pics to show it. Learnt a lot in the strip-down and rebuild process. Found that the assembly of control cock to cleaning needle was very fiddley; having to hold the two together, whilst lining up the generator in the air-tube and then tightening the union nut and hold-down nut. Any tips on this operation? Steve.

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    Hi Steve,

    I'm not sure on this new style, I'll have a look at one when I get home.

    I believe you can turn the valve so that the eccentric block is pulled into the housing with the generator hooked to it, that way it can't fall out.

    One point, always run the heat shield on these as some of the earlier eccentric blocks were plastic or cheap "pot" metal. They have been known to melt with the heat shield missing.

    Sure say's a lot about the new way of doing things.
     
  7. Jacob van Pareen South Africa

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    I have a question: Are the generators of the 285 and 295 interchangeable, in other words, the same?
     
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    @Jacob van Pareen

    The 285 generator is:

    Part 285-5891; with a V tip and jet of 0.00075”; and 3.585” long.

    The 295 generator is:

    Part 295-5891; with a P tip and jet of 0.0009”; and is 4.535” long.


    The Coleman 282 uses the 285-5891 generator.


    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    V tip .007" and P tip .009"
     
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    Thanks Tony.
     
  12. Jacob van Pareen South Africa

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    Hi Tony,
    Should there be any significant higher lumen output on the 295, compared to the 285, with the larger tip, but with the same mantle sizes?
     
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    Yes. All other things being equal, a larger jet will provide more vapourised fuel, therefore more lumens.

    The Coleman 285 is rated as a 220cp (candle power) lantern, and the 295 at 300cp.

    Cheers

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  14. Jacob van Pareen South Africa

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    36% more light!

    Thanks Tony
     

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