Dating a lantern (give it a place on a time line)

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  1. WimVe

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    Dear collectors all over the world,
    At this moment there are some discussions about date codes stamped or scratched on lamps.
    To get a good overview what is correct or not I want to ask everybody to take some time and write here the numbers found on their lamp including a photograph of the item.

    To make it a little better to handle I would suggest we start with lamps made by Hipolito S.A.R.L. Portugal.
    At this moment restricted to the brands: Hipolito, Geniol and Camel.
    No discussions about the codes, I think we should first collect the information and then see if we can crack the code. @Reinhard already made a good start but we need more codes to validate and check.

    Off coarse other brands will follow so you all may already check those too.

    ps Also lamps with no code are important.
     
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    Good idea...

    Unfortunately, I don’t have any of those lanterns (I think :-k).

    Tony
     
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    Hipolito 502, fount stamp 8970:

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    Base of fount is stamped 8970:

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    Hi Wim,
    Great idea!
    Best regards,
    Emiel

    Stamp in the tank: 1318

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  5. LatMag49

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    Alex,
    could the 7 be read as a 4? Would be 0468 together?

    Matthias
     
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    @LatMag49 - I've just been and checked again. You are correct, 0468.
     
  7. Martin K.

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    Hello all,
    that's a really interesting topic to solve one of the collector's miracles.
    I've currently made an Excel List which already contains some lanterns. I'd also like include the brands AIDA, PETROMAX, Lanterne and FAMA, but only apart the manufacturing date from the 1970's.
    If the interpretation of the 4-digit date code according to the Graetz-Altena scheme "wwyd" where:
    ww = week of the year (01-52),
    y = year of manufacture beginning from 1960 (1=1961...9=1969), and
    d = day of the week (1=Monday...5=Friday)
    would not make sense, then it would be of interest for us.
    The Excel-List can be downloaded from this link.
    All the best, Martin
     
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  8. Wim

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    I have a Hipo H-502 with 0589.

    Regards,

    Wim
     
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    I have a Hipo H 201 with 1918
    and a Hipo H 502 with 9501

    Matthias
     
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    @Wim , could you please make/post some Photos of that lantern? It is so far the first one that does not fit the scheme Reinhard has established for the portugese Lanterns, nor the scheme from Graetz Altena.
    Martin.
     
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    Hi @Martin K. , as far as I can tell, it is the same as the ones posted by Alex and Emiel but I'll see if I can make a photo of it (if my camera wants to cooperate! ).

    Wim
     
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    Hipolito H202 with number 3118

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    2 H500 Hipolito. 9022, and 9122.
     
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    Hi Good day to you all --Hipolito 502 H auto Number 9320

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    And the mystery deepens.....lol
    :-k
     
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    Added yet another Hipolito to the stack. Number 3288
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    I have a good few of these from 150's to 500's. Only problem is to dig them out. Building at the minute so between that and work time is extremely limited. I'll try and get them included over the next few weeks.
     
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    Funny thing... I have a couple of Aida 1250 lanterns, NOS from the MD Dutch civil defense and the only markings they have on the bottom is "MD-41", no stamping, not scratching....nothing.
    :-k
     
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    here is a H 302 (stamped 9010)

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    H 502: 2728
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    C9C8088A-027C-422F-B48D-D23F4EF4D4CE.jpeg My first post! I have just bought a Hipolito here in NZ. Number 1328 7D530316-AAC7-47BB-8FD8-532CD1E06FBD.jpeg
     
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    H502 stamped 9026
    H302 stamped 4288
    350 without
    Géniol stamped 9134
     
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    Hello collectors,
    I can easily read all 4-digit numbers of the pressure lamps manufactured in Torres Vedras Portugal from 1974 to 1999.
    I noticed that in 1989 and 1991 the numbers were stamped differently.
    However, it does not prevent me from reading out of the year of manufacture and the week in a matter of seconds without any problems. My problem is that I cannot prove it clearly.
    @Alex Smith 0468=1986 week 4
    @LatMag49 1918=1981 week19
    9501=1995 week 01
    @Emiel 3288=1988 week 32
    2728=1982 week 27
    3118=1981 week 31
    @Scotlamp 9320=1993 week 20
    @dwillie 9022=1990 week22
    9122=1991 week 22
    @Michel 9010=1990 week 10
    @Sellig33 9026=1990 week 26
    4288=1988 week 42
    9134=1991 week 34
    @Mike Goldthorpe 1328 =1982 week13
     
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    @Reinhard very interesting, much appreciated. I didn't know mine is fairly late.
     
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    Also I've a Geniol 250 stamped 3538, and a chinese 150 with 6 digits :mrgreen:
     
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    @Wim
    0589=1989 week 5

    @Sellig33
    3538=1983 week 35
    I can't see a code in the 6-digit chinese numbers. They are serial numbers.
     
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