gasoline Petromax 828E

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  1. Michel

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    Hi all
    I have a small problem with this lamp.
    For me, all the Px runs with kerosene except for the swiss army 250 lamps.
    So i wonder : here is a 350 gasoline Px
    the lamp is new and never been lighted. i think it is direct from the box.
    Who knows this kind of lamp ?
    on the bottom, I can read the number 33, scratched. Could it be the production's year ?

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  2. leo

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    Hi Michel,
    33 is probably March 1953.
    Could you take a photo from the inner casing?
     
  3. Michel

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    Hi Leo, I am not sure to understand what you want
    is it this ?
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    Hi Michel,
    I meant the upper parts, the fixing of the mixingtube. "E" lanterns have mostly a special fixing by a parallel mounted screw. I hope you understand :D
     
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    828E is a kero lantern. This is an odd one with a gasoline generator. It may run on gasoline but like all kero types it is a risky game because the engineering is designed for kero and is just not safe on the more volatile fuel. From the rapid pre heater 1942 to 1953 so I can't argue with the 1953 date given above. ::Neil::
     
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    The fact that WE call it a gasoline generator doesn't mean that it was designed for gasoline.

    In the old days there where more fuels types available.

    However there is a petromax style , E&G made gasoline lantern, correct, at least two models, which are mentioned in catalogues.

    Please take a look here to date a Px lantern.
     
  7. Michel

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    Thanks all
    Leo, I think you want to see those pictures :
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    I have another question about the glass :
    the ingraving of this glass is sandblasted. Does it match with the period (1953) ?

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    In fact, I have a third question :
    what is this little thing ?

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    Hi guys, any answer ?
     
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    I have not seen that device before.
     
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    I am not sure somewhere in the back of my head it murmmels on the old petromax forum.
    But I ma not sure. E can also point to a long forgotten fuel in a foreign language.

    The Schott logo isn't one I know and maybe you can ask Schott what they know. The corners of it doesn't match the logo I know (please scroll down a little).
     
  12. Michel

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    E could it be for Essence ?
     
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    Some years ago, I heard a story about the "E", it should be for Essence/Spiritus. But I don't know if it's true. I've never seen before this part in your mixingtube.
     
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    Lamps with an E suffix turn up in the UK. Petromax stamped their product in either German or English. English because legislation in the US demanded country of origin had to be marked on any imported product in English and like a lot of manufacturers all over the world they just marked everything with "Made in Germany". It does not seem likely to me that they would have used a French term to designate a fuel type. Can't be essence in any case because most of the lamps marked so are Kero burners. I rather suspect the E is for Export. Same word in both German and English and given they turn up here maybe makes more sense. ::Neil::
     
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    yes, that makes sense, Neil, because this is the same word in English, German and ... French.
     
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    Hello Michel,
    I have exactly the same lamp as you.
    An Petromax 828 E year 1953 with gasoline generator.
    All postware Petromax in my collection marked with E are from 1953.
    I've never seen a Petromax from 1953 that had no E on the nameplate.

    Regards, Reinhard
     
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    023.JPG 024.JPG In addition two pictures.
     
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    Hi Reinhard,

    At that time Michel proposed to me publish the lamp himself at CPL&H.
    I was not yet registered at CPL&H.
    I gave my consent and provided the pictures for the publication.
    I thank Michel again for having done it for me.

    This lamp opened interesting discutions.
    I own this one and an identical second one also arrived in NOS condition.
    I used for one shot first to left with kerosene and gasoline and kept the second to right with the inner dust and the reflector.

    They are also here:Ehrich & Graetz – AIDA & Petromax lanterns

    Regards,
    Titoo

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