this is my first post. i am a collector of coleman stuff mainly. some of you may know me as OldCampingStuff elsewhere. i got this lamp in today (ebay purchase). I think it is a Turner model 800 ? it is brown paint with nickel plating to set it off. the pump, valve assemblies, lower and upper globe holders, air tube and the rings and base of the handle all appear nickel plated. The globe is a Macbeth. Any info would be appreciated. - Thanks Nick
hi Nick,nice unusual old lamp, i was watching that one myself, do not know anything about it but i am also interested to know if it runs on kero or gas, hope to see it up and running, regards Frank
Hello Nick and welcome aboard! I saw that lamp on Ebay USA., and it is either a Turner model 800 or a model 850, but the brown paint is not original and if you look at the control wheel, you will see that the brown paint is flaking off and that the wheel is black. The link below shows Bob's example and there is more information too. That's a fine lamp! http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/1149
The Model 800 used petrol/gasoline for fuel and the model 850 used paraffin/kerosene for fuel. Both lamps looked the same though, the link below shows Turner paperwork, but that part of this website is only open to subscribers, Jeff. http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/1204
hello i have located one other person with the same brown lamp, they seem to think the black ones were turner branded on the pump, and these brown ones that are not marked on pump were made for sears or wards. of course two people could have decided brown was the color it needed to be and they just painted it themselves.
Sears sold a Turner 800 type lamp in 1935 and 1936. This was painted black with a nickel plated handle. In fact it is the paint over the nickel on the handle that makes me think this is a re painted lamp and that it was not made in that colour. I can find no evidence that Wards ever sold Turner product. Odd thing is the Sears model 7700 appear to have only one control wheel and the details say it has a combined valve and pricker control and that it is an Instant Lighting gasoline lamnp. You can only see the one control in the image which seems to be the main valve wheel. However a Turner normally has a second lighting contol to the left of the main wheel and this is missing in the image. This lack suggests a special made for Sears but I am reluctant to state this as an absolute fact because the negative evidence is weak. Two lamps found in the same paint job does perhaps imply they were sold this way but the evidence from catalogues and such says they were not. However I will not say they are wrong and repainted because of such weak evidence. A few more turning up would be good though to reinforce the suspicion that this is a variation previously unknown. ::Neil::
how do i tell if this is a kero or gas lamp? the pickup is two small brass tubes, if that helps. one for air one for fuel i guess?
If the lamp has twin feeds for gasoline and air then it is a gasoline lamp because Kero lamps never have this feature. The big wheel is the main fuel and pricker control. The smaller wheel on a Turner is an instant lighting control. You open that smaller control to feed both gasoline and air to the burners for lighting. Once you have a steady burn then you open the main control and close the small one. ::Neil::
I was wrong about the colour of these. Sears did advertise it in Brown. It is therefore a Sears model 7704. Shows you I should read the paper evidence with a bit more care. This brown one was introduced in the fall of 1936 and sold to the fall of 1938. It is lamp C in the image below From Spring 1936 and earlier the same lamp is black and model 7700. :Neil::
